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Title: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on December 01, 2011, 05:09:48 AM
Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)

Growing up in Canada, the separation of seasons has always been obvious. Certain activities are meant for certain times of the year. And skateboarding is one such activity. Shake off the rust in the spring, learn some new tricks in the summer, and relish the cool autumn days. Winter means video games, girlfriends, snowboarding and drinking. Yet in those cold winter months, the urge to skateboard remains, until eventually an underground garage is infiltrated, or a skatepark is shovelled. Yet despite our determination to skate, and an extra layer of clothing or two, the elements can’t be avoided. Leaving us to contend with wet griptape, road salt, and of course frozen bushings. Trying to turn and having the board go straight, tic-tacing everywhere, and damaged bushings and trucks are all related to frozen bushings caused by cold temperatures. After suffering through this for years, I started researching how to design bushings that would not freeze. Having consulted with engineers and tested numerous prototypes, I have successfully created Bitter Bushings, the first ever skateboard bushings designed for cold weather conditions. They look and skate like your normal bushings, but hold up to winter temperatures. Patent pending.

Available online at http://www.BitterBushings.com (http://www.BitterBushings.com). Available soon at a skateshop near you.

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Learn more about Bitter Bushings in this introduction video…

Introducing... Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_hv2n9Fd3g#ws)

Thank you,
Clint McLean
Owner & Designer of Bitter Bushings


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: dtotherob on December 01, 2011, 10:05:23 AM
i live in canada also so i know about stiff cold bushings.  not too sure what you have going on if they are about the same as regular medium bushings. 

i've found that if i'm going for an outside winter skate, i just leave my board in the front seat and let the car heater keep 'em soft.

send me some and i'll gladly review them.


Title: Re: Introducing
Post by: bailgun on December 01, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
if these are legit, they could be a gamechanger.... what dtotherob said. 


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Stabby_McShiv on December 01, 2011, 02:35:27 PM
Having experienced the difference between rubber compounds in winter and summer automobile tires I totally back the concept behind these and nice work putting together all the info. 

Despite living in close proximity to a well known mountain range, my preference is still to spend winters on concrete regardless of how low the temps get.  When I feel stiff out of the gate on really cold days I usually fault my body for not being warmed up as opposed to my bushings.

Given that friction generates heat and bushings see their fair share of friction I wonder how long it really takes to warm them up and make them pliable.  I have never really thought about it before but the freezer test might be a little misleading if the bushings do in fact warm up after a few turns. 

Either way, skipping the warm up step would be worth the cost of the bushings and I am willing to give them a shot.  If you could figure out a way to make concrete a little softer to slam against when it's cold as shit out than I would be all set (or at least engineer a more liver friendly option than whiskey).


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on December 01, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Thanks for the comments guys! Really appreciate it.

dtotherob, They do skate similar to a soft-medium urethane bushing, but where those bushings will freeze at a certain point, Bitter Bushings won't. Where do you live in Canada?

Stabby, normal bushings will "warm up" if the temperature's not too low, but every time you take a break for a minute, you'll be back to square one. And if the temperature's low enough, they won't warm up at all. It's a pretty cheap investment for a something that will really help your winter skating. I hope you give them a shot! 


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Stabby_McShiv on December 02, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
Good point.  I actually thought about that after I posted.  I figure the hanger will be cold as shit so it won't take very long for the bushing to get cold and stiffen up.  Your timing couldn't have been better given that the forecast temps in my area just went from highs in the 50-60s F to the 10 day showing highs in the 30 and 40s.

I'll probably give 'em a go.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: dtotherob on December 02, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
Thanks for the comments guys! Really appreciate it.

dtotherob, They do skate similar to a soft-medium urethane bushing, but where those bushings will freeze at a certain point, Bitter Bushings won't. Where do you live in Canada?

i live in calgary.  the city of bitter cold and warm chinooks. i'm assuming they are fine for year round use? i don't see why not. it's enough that i change out my summer tires for winter tires on the car each season, but bushings, i will pass on lol!


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
Stabby, you make a good point about the trucks which most people don't realize. The trucks are a conductor of cold, so it only helps to freeze the bushings further.

dtotherob, they skate the same all year round. So if you like the way they skate in the winter, just keep them in come spring.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on December 19, 2011, 11:00:18 AM
For the Canadian homies - Bitter Bushings is excited to announce our partnership with Ultimate Skateboard Distribution, Canada's largest skateboard distributor. In business for over 25 years, Ultimate distributes top brands including Toy Machine, SK8mafia, Think, and Powell. Bitter Bushings will now be available in skateshops across Canada. Please contact your local shop for availability.


Title: Re: Introducing
Post by: bailgun on December 19, 2011, 02:23:38 PM
good for you, dude.... generally, when "EXCITING NEW SKATEBOARD PRODUCTS DESTINED TO CHANGE EVERYTHING" come out, i'm skeptical at best... but your deal seems super legit. frozen stiff trucks suck, and anything to make my skateboard turn in the cold is a big help.

now can you make some kind of superconductive space heater that warms up the concrete, too? cold concrete seems to hurt more when i fall on it. 


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: dtotherob on December 19, 2011, 04:42:19 PM
^ basically this.  if i can get find some here, i'll let you know what i think.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on January 01, 2012, 11:46:45 AM
Chris Nieratko predicts Bitter Bushings will "revolutionize the bushings game" -
http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/blog/_/post/7393904/skate-predictions-2012 (http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/blog/_/post/7393904/skate-predictions-2012)


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Stabby_McShiv on January 04, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
Sorry man but I put two sessions on these and had to swap them out.  Bottom line is that they are way too soft for me.  If you could do a stiffer bushing that didn't freeze than I would be game.

I realize I wasn't using them under ideal conditions in terms of what they are intended for because both days were between 40 and 50 degrees (F).   In my case it's still a valid test though because the temps in the winter here generally fluctuate from highs in the 20s to 50s all winter long.  I have never had enough of an issue to justify swapping bushings depending on the forecast. 

In case it helps I weigh around 190-195 and both days were skating strictly transition.  I typically run Bones Mediums and I have been running my trucks fairly loose as of late (thanks in part to some advice from Bailgun and some well placed wax saving me from wheelbite).  The kingpin nut is almost as loose as it'll go with about a half of a thread visible on the kingpin.  I tried them just as loose with the Bitter Bushings at first but that wasn't happening as soft as they were.  I tried ratcheting down the kingpin nut way more than I generally would (like a quarter inch of kingpin showing) to see if it helped and they were still too soft.  I kept feeling a little magic carpet action when I locked into grinds and otherwise they just felt way too soft for me.  Maybe I just suck and people who like things loose will dig 'em but I feel that I suck less with my Bones Mediums co-piloting.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Logan on January 05, 2012, 05:54:57 PM
seems cool, winters a bitch....even in America.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on January 11, 2012, 08:18:20 AM
Sorry to hear that they're too soft for you Stabby. I've gotten that reaction from a few people, while other people are loving them. Comes down to personal preference in the end. Either way, I really appreciate you giving them a shot, and also thankful for the feedback.

One of the guys who thought they were a bit soft commented that if the choice is between frozen bushings and a bushing that's a bit too soft, he's gonna choose the bushing that's a bit too soft. I thought that was cool reasoning. It's been an strange winter to launch Bitter Bushings, and get reactions under the proper circumstance, what with the fluctuating temperatures all over North America.

Check-out this Bitter Bushings inspired winter skate clip from here in Toronto - Skate Loft / Bitter Bushings Contest entry - Nicky Young (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFv84hFB6M#ws)   


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on January 25, 2012, 10:01:53 AM
This dude loves to skate loose trucks. Bitter Bushings help make that happen in the winter...

Slow Motion Minute ft. Nicky Young (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPoQfCsK8LM#ws)


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: brendon on February 05, 2012, 09:01:19 PM
No disrespect but,  if no such product has been around previously and skateboarders have been killing it in Canada for ever,then why is this needed now. I lump this in with p2 decks and titanium trucks. Just un necessary   . If it ain't broke don't fix it. And that's just my opinion. Ps. Loosen them trucks and ride indys if u wanna turn


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: outsider716 on February 06, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
That's a really cool idea. I don't really skate outdoors when it's freezing cold outside, so it's not a problem for me, but props to you for putting in the work, coming up with a product, marketing it, etc...Innovation and new ideas are part of what makes the world go 'round.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on February 28, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Canadian ripper Trevon Casselman skating Bitter Bushings...

(http://www.bitterbushings.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BitterBushings-TrevonCasselman-Kickflip.jpg)

Trevon Casselman 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8bMwG98984#)


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: dtotherob on February 28, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
every ad or video you show claiming a guy is riding your bushings, dude is in a tee shirt or it's sunny.  that is not cold weather.  i asked if you would send me some to try out as i would have given a great review based on the fact that i live in cold canada, but you just said to buy 'em in a store.  well i haven't found any yet and i don't think i'll be buying any either.  sorry dude.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: susej on February 29, 2012, 06:08:04 AM
Yep. Dude skates good. Video has nothing to do with you product though. Sending a set to d, and having him review them would be a hell of a lot more meaningful than footage of somebody skating in normal conditions.


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: Bitter Bushings on February 29, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
dtotherob, I never specifically told you to go buy them, only said we'd hooked-up with a distributor. If you're still interested, send me your address and I'll happily ship you a set.

The first clip I posted of Nicky Young has him shovelling snow. The photo posted above has snow in the background and bare trees. It was about -5C/25F that day. As you know, weather's been strange this year. The snow comes and goes, but it's always pretty cold. The dude had been skating for a while, so he was warm despite the actual temperature. I included the video clip just to help promote the dude, not as an official Bitter Bushings clip. At the same token, he's wearing toques and gloves in half the clips.

Maybe I should add a thermometer graphic on the next ad? haha


Title: Re: Introducing… Bitter Bushings (Cold Weather Skateboard Bushings)
Post by: el ogrehound 3000 on February 29, 2012, 05:34:35 PM
You should just promote the fact that it is "bitter" outside in your ads more than explaining them after the fact.
That ad could have been shot in California, making your product look retarded.