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Title: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 09, 2012, 12:05:46 PM
how's it goin' yall? i used to skate back when i was like 14-16 but i was never too serious about it and now that i'm a bit older and have the means to keep up with the sport, i'm wanting to pick it up again.  also the fact that i'm majoring in radio/tv/film at the moment has heavily influenced my decision to pick it back up, i want to make skate films, and i need to be able to at least follow ppl but for the most part i'm just trying to get back to that feeling that skating gave me, basically a freedom above normal freedom if that makes sense. ANYWAY, i'm thinking about this setup and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions/tips/review about products i've chosen or ANYTHING you think would be useful to me, i'd like to hear it. appreciate the read and sorry i babbled for so long psh--here's the setup:

CCS standard issue deck - 7.5
Tensor slider mid trucks   - 7.75
Ricta Supercrystal Wheels- size 53 dura-99a
Bones Reds bearings

that's pretty much it, i've got my mind made up on grip tape and everything else, i would just like some feedback on these items if anyone cares to give some.  ALSO, i am about 5'11 155lbs, i used to skate wider decks but i found they were harder to do any flip tricks on (or maybe i just straight blew)--but i felt like a skinnier deck always felt better to me when i would ride a friends, that's why i chose 7.5 for this one. thanks to anyone who reads, and appreciate it. holla


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: bailgun on March 09, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
1-fuck ccs. support your local shop.
2-tensors are crap. aces, indys, or thunders.
3-you're 5-11, 155, and you're going to ride a 7.5? c'mon, son. get a big boy board.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: outsider716 on March 09, 2012, 01:21:14 PM
Go for it...I encourage anyone of any age to skate and keep on skating until they can't skate any more.

As far as your set up goes, I tend to agree with bailgun...The type/size deck you get is really up to you, but actually going to a local shop will help you make your decision. You can see what it looks like and even stand on it so you know how it feels under your feet. I'm only 5'8" and I prefer an 8" deck, but everyone's different.

I only ride Indy's but that's my personal preference (I've always ridden them.) Wheels, same thing. I like Spitfires, but everyone's different. Bearings...I would say if you're going to go with Reds, spend a few extra dollars and get the Super Reds; They're higher quality and they are faster than the regulars, (If you have money, which I don't, spring for the Swiss or ceramics...Very high quality.)

Hope that helps a little, and good luck.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 09, 2012, 01:42:31 PM
my friend just came over with this deck(7.5) and a friends(8.0) and i tried both of them and it felt like when i was on the 8, i had more control on ollies, but the deck was also so much heavier! i feel like with the 7.5 i would have more control with flips(since it's lighter) or does this not make sense?  to me it felt like when i rode the 8 then got on the 7.5 it was like swinging a donut on a bat then taking it off.  i'm honestly looking for some more opinions so if anyone reading this has a second plz just lemme know what you think.  is a 7.5 deck going to break easier since it's smaller than an 8 or is it just the "board control" that is being addressed by this change.  thanks yall.

also, my local skate shop is zumiez and their decks blow, so anymore feedback for ccs decks?


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Greg Smith on March 09, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Yeah, I agree with everyone else.  A 7.5 is what I rode when I was nine.  You need at least an 8.  Also, don't buy from ccs.  You don't have a local shop?  That's just my opinion.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 09, 2012, 04:44:03 PM
i dunno why everyone hates on ccs, lol. my local "shop" is zumiez, overpriced BULLSHIT.  CCS is great for prices and selection and they've always been a legit store front, i've been buying from them for years. there's a reason why they're still around. 

what the hell tho, an 8!? for real!? that shit is like HUGE, i don't want to skate vert i am just trying to get back into the swing of things and get the basics down, is it going to easier on a bigger or smaller deck?  what about a 7.75 instead?

appreciate the replies.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: outsider716 on March 09, 2012, 06:59:56 PM
I've never used CCS so I don't know too much about them. If you don't have a local shop other than Zumiez and you don't want to go there, order a deck that you like from wherever you want to...

You wanted some opinions and you got them...Some people prefer bigger boards, and some prefer smaller ones. You said you felt good on a 7.5", but felt like you had a better ollie on an 8"...

The major consensus here seems to be that the 7.5 is more of a kid's board, but you feel that the 8 might be too big...Maybe the answer is a 7.75/7.8?

One thing to consider when deciding on the width of your deck is the size of your feet...What size shoes do you wear? I only wear a size nine and I swear by my 8" deck (and I skate mostly street, plenty of flip tricks included). I think that the whole "heavy" thing was all in your head or your friend just had a heavy board (wheels/trucks/etc..) We're only talking about 1/2" in width and a tiny bit of length. That's not enough wood to make a significant difference in weight.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 09, 2012, 07:46:55 PM
for sure for sure. i really appreciate all the answers i've got so far. i think im either going to go with an 8/7.75. prolly the 8 first so i can get a real solid ollie down and yeah come to think of it the dude had independents on his deck and the other had something else so it was probably the trucks.

what about tensor vs krux for trucks?

im also thinking about the ricta supercrystal wheels, they're expensive but does anyone know if they're worth it? i mean it's Ricta but could i just get some Bones 100s and still be straight?

that is all for now.

seriously, thank yall


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Stabby_McShiv on March 09, 2012, 08:47:16 PM
I think you are stressing about the entirely wrong aspect of your setup.  Clearly the only thing you are going to be spending your time on is blowing dudes so it would likely behoove you to invest in some solid knee pads. 

Your local shop has those too,



Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: C H U C K on March 10, 2012, 10:11:43 AM
The most important thing you can do is sand the graphics off your wheels. You'll notice how much lighter your set up is and your nollie inward heelflips will be so much more steezed out.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Babe, Mr. Ruth if you're Nasty on March 11, 2012, 12:58:43 PM
Only drink agnostic beverages. Because not knowing what you're drinking is like not knowing whether you're gonna land or not.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: ether on March 11, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
If you want to progress quickly you need to
1. Skate a lot
2. Not get injured.
3. Ride a lot of shapes and keep track of WHY you like what you like.
4. Ignore other peoples input and really go with what works for you regardless of fashion.

In a nutshell, width adds stability for street/flips while wheelbase adds stability for tranny and speed. Usually they increase together. Wheelbase will really affect your ride overall. Tail length and shape will really affect your ollies. So will the amount of tail and nose kick. Companies like flip that  have steep kicks will feel really different than something flatter like creature even with the same width and wheelbase and same parent company. Depth of concave is important too. Skate companies rarely list this information and skaters are willfully ignorant of it as well. If you want to get better faster then keep track and think and feel with your feet.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: ether on March 11, 2012, 01:45:10 PM
Oh yeah, for trucks, try Aces (deep carve, light, awesome) Indys (a little more stable, not as surf carve as ace) or Theeves (very stable, light, solid, eat bushings really fast)

Krux are o.k. if you don't like to turn much
Tensors are o.k. if you never ever want to turn again. Even then you should throw them away. Even if you get paid to ride them.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 11, 2012, 02:40:10 PM
i know i like to ride loose and i was debating between krux and tensor lol so both of those are out now, i suppose. i had original independents back in the day and i remember they were heavy as balls, but i did see that they are making lighter ones now, so i could check them out as well. 


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: ether on March 11, 2012, 10:22:45 PM
If you liked old indys try aces. Tershay worked at Indy and left to create Ace based on the old indy stage 2 and stage 3. Not as solid as indys but lighter and turn deeper and plenty strong enough. I really wanted to stay with Indy but just prefer the Ace 44s so I based my board choices around that truck really. Prefer it to the stage 10 Indy although stage 10s are good trucks too.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: ttching on March 13, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
7.5's are kids and tech wizards who land everything bolts.  Especially if you like loose trucks and are planning on riding and filming, buy a bigger board.  You'll have more control and be able to maintain your speed more easily.  I second Bailgun: buy Indy's or Thunders for your trucks.  Don't worry about the weight of the trucks or board because the only real effect the subtle differences competing products have is in your mind.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: bailgun on March 13, 2012, 09:36:05 PM
i said ACES. indy or thunder i only added to be nice.

and heres the deal with ccs:they're the walmart of skateboarding. they (much like zumiez) are a chain. they come into malls all over, and undercut the local shops.

dollar votes, man. dollar votes.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 16, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
for sure man. i live in TX so i don't see a lot of CCS storefronts and had no clue that's what they do. i've always just known them as a catalog store.  but yeah i mean once i FIND a local shop to support i'm way down. just needa do that. 


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Big D on March 19, 2012, 10:25:13 PM
I love Thrasher as much as the next guy but this thing was a pain in the ass as far as registration goes.

Trying to come back myself but you sound younger.
I am 32 now and I have stayed active so I am still about the same size as I was back then,
Its been about 10 years now
I wasn't really good but I had fun with it.
I new a few guys who got free stuff here and there but they were way beyond me
I really loved it for about a good 6 years and I don't think I am too old to come back and have some fun again.
Went out last week and after finding a relatively vacant parking garage and overcoming some reasonable fears, I noticed that surprisingly the pop was there. I had still cruised to the liquor store or bombed a small hill every now and then over the years but no tricks,  not even an ollie in 10.
Was able to snap a few off (actually surprised by the height considering!)
I was stupid enough to maybe land 40 or so ollies a few powerslides a hand full of rock to fakies at the the local community skatepark.  I didnt even try grinding or sliding yet.  I figured not to bad for an old kook like me who hasn't really skated in nearly a decade. I was painfully sore in numerous areas for a good 3 days after, especially in the knee joints. It was fucking raw, and believe me I know how to stretch and take care of myself.  Luckily I did not slam too many times, but I got a few mock cheers out of the high school kids at the park.

I can tell I have to recommit and practice if I want to get back to the ledge and curb junk I was primarily into back in the day.  I was always too scared to try and go big and I was definitely lazy when it came to attempting tech.  But I do remember being to do all of my tricks at relatively high speed, which was a blast when I was having a good day. I have no delusions here people, I just want to have some fun while I am still relatively young.

I got a buddy I reconnected with, we used to skate street together in high school and he is really trying to sell me on transition/concrete skatepark life. He swears its less wear and tear and actually much less of a workout  I have tried it a few times and I know it can be fun as shit, but there is something about skating obstacles that were not purposely designed for being skated.  Its almost as if I would rather learn to do transitions stuff in a ditch rather than hit up a smooth concrete bowl, as stupid as that sounds.  Even the street replica stuff at the modern parks doesn't feel the same.  I do remember the first artificial bench I skated and just remembered wanting a portable one I could stash in my van and cruse to school yards with for practice so I am sure I could get used to it.

I still look pretty young so I don't feel like a complete creep being a grown man at a school yard trying to shake shit but I noticed allot of the old spots around town are dead and gone.  Its kinda sad.
I know skateboarding is a "sport" now. believe me when I first started it was definitely more of a subculture.
But I think at this point in my life perhaps the mainstream appeal is something I can take advantage of in terms of learning to do it somewhat competently again and most importantly have a good time. 

It feels like the itch to skate is something I have tried to ignore for at least a good 3 years now.
But I think I have been putting this off for a while, so I am gonna try and just get back to the basics and take it slow as I go.  I cannot afford to miss work from an injury!

I have what feels like a serviceable Creature complete I got last year.
I was never really into specs and brands but I tended to ride whatever was local and I have gone back and forth over Northern, Central and Southern California throughout my life, so I guess I was exposed to allot of different companies.

I rode primarily 8 inch boards (which I remember was considered a bigger board back in the day but from the looks of it seems pretty small by today's standards) I guess its something about having more control with a smaller board but kickflips and the occasional big spin was about as tech as I ever got. I remember having a really good REAL board, some good Black Label boards and some nice Creature NHS decks.  I had Scarecrow, Wheels, I had allot of Spitfires.  Pretty much always rode Indy Trucks.  Rode my trucks tight, unless I was jumping off shit, which I stopped doing almost altogether because I used to rip my ankle really bad to the point where I needed to skate with a brace.   I knew guys who seemed really good and they always gave me conflicting stories about what they thought worked best.
For me, it was just personal preference, mainly what lasted the longest because I was on a pretty limited budget.  That and I always thought that I didn't even have the skill level to really appreciate the difference, but I am open to trying any product that produces good results, though I really think allot of it comes down to cognitive bias from the skater.

I am fairly motivated right now, but I do have limited time and I may be switching jobs soon, so I don't know if right now is the best time or if I am just making excuses.

I am open to suggestions, other than "quit why you are ahead"

Cheers!






Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: susej on March 20, 2012, 05:11:09 AM
How about "Write your thesis somewhere else geezer!"?


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Babe, Mr. Ruth if you're Nasty on March 20, 2012, 07:10:10 AM
We gotta send Big D back to the Kids Table.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Greg Smith on March 20, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
We gotta send Big D back to the Kids Table.
  Haha Yeah we got to get him out of here.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: C H U C K on March 20, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Old people suck!


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: susej on March 21, 2012, 07:26:41 AM
Old people suck!

Especially me! Wait, what?...


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Joshua on March 21, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
I think old people are great to make connections with. They like to get away from their regular 9-5 jobs and go out and carve the bowl. Shit they could get you the hook ups with a ride to a spot and get skate muchies (well at least in my experience)


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: dtotherob on March 21, 2012, 07:40:24 PM
Shit they could get you the hook ups with a ride to a spot and get skate muchies (well at least in my experience)

also known as, " get into my rape van, kid." 


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Big D on March 22, 2012, 09:25:58 AM
Thanx for the advice.
Say hi to your mom to for me :)


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Teds Wild on March 22, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
Thanx for the advice.
Say hi to your mom to for me :)

Big D can't be a geezer! He responds to criticism in the same way my 13 year old cousin does.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Big D on March 22, 2012, 09:54:05 AM
I thought this was the kiddie table!


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Big D on March 22, 2012, 09:58:41 AM
Searching for mature responses (nice to have found one) while attempting to be age appropriate!
Tell you the truth I was expecting a much nastier hazing.
I think the nostalgia prompted the regression.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Big D on March 22, 2012, 10:01:09 AM
Especially, Henry, Greg, Dez, Keith and Ron!


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Big D on March 22, 2012, 10:04:23 AM
Thank you for respecting your elders.
Lets meet up at your favorite spot.
You can't miss me, I will be the one with the oxygen tank and wheelchair!


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: outsider716 on March 22, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
You're only too old if you think you're too old. It doesn't matter if some young kid looks at you funny at the park. Do it son.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: dtotherob on March 22, 2012, 09:42:16 PM
i love looking at the old farts funny. funny old farts lol


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: susej on March 23, 2012, 07:50:55 AM
I hate it when old guys don't even know how to answer like old guys.

And the other old guy piping up with this "only as old as you feel" hippy bullshit.  ::)


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: Michael Sauer on March 23, 2012, 06:44:57 PM
all you moronic shit talkers should take a step away from a keyboard and get back onto your decks. isn't this board/mag about fucking skateboarding. gtfo here with all the shit. yall are beyond ridiculous, plz go ask your mom to buy your next deck/wheels/trucks/etc bc we all know you're chillin on a free ride, you fucks.

as for Big D, 32 and getting back into it, that's the shit man! i was at the park the other night and this 45 year old dude was there shredding on his son's deck, he's getting back into it too. and he's never skated before at all, really. so keep it up. most of the problems i have found this time around are all in my head. i used to be so scared to try to ollie off of anything and today i was fucking OWNING a tall two stair. i know it's not much, but i've only been back on a deck for about a week or so, so i mean i'll take what i can get. just have fun.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: susej on March 23, 2012, 07:33:32 PM
Have fun owning your 2-stairs old guys, while I get my mom to buy me a new deck.

You'd take a free deck too if you could.


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: dtotherob on March 23, 2012, 09:47:15 PM
seems to me that some old guys don't like to have fun. i wonder who the moronic shit talkers are anyway?



Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: krusher on March 23, 2012, 09:49:12 PM
Yep, old people killed Skateboarding...


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: C H U C K on March 24, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
Don't diss on grandpa for owning the 2 step. I got him on video, we can all learn from the old fucker.

How To: Country 2 Step Dance Workshop by Michael Thomas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJ9Xx-pZCw#)


Title: Re: back like i never left?
Post by: bailgun on April 02, 2012, 01:08:34 PM
inb4 get off my lawn.