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Title: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on June 29, 2012, 04:24:43 PM
Been riding Theeves for a while now and figured I'd do a nerdy write up on them for the forum.  Prior to Theeve I rode Venture Featherlite (early 90's-'99) and Independent (2000-2008).  Both are great trucks. Ventures are light and grind good, while Indys also grind good and have a great turning feel.  The Theeves seem to have the best of both worlds.

Rode the v1 Theeve TIAX Jan '09-May '12, almost 3.5 years.  These have a different look than the current TIAX, I guess they wanted to differentiate the look between models.  The TIAX has traditional alloy but a titanium axle which makes the truck significantly lighter and stronger.  Holding the brand new TIAX was noticeably lighter than my old ground down Indys in comparison.

v1 TIAX
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/IMG_0291.jpg)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/IMG_0290.jpg)

Old Indys I was riding before Theeve
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/IMG_0292.jpg)

Compared to Venture and Indy, the Theeves grind just as good, are lighter and have an amazing turning feel.
THe reason I switched back in the day, from Venture to Indy was because of the turning.  Ventures have more of a 'lean' feel, while the Indys are able to produce nice sweeping carves in bowls/pools/transitions.  The Theeves turn like Indy but are smoother and have a sharper turn in response.  Tough to explain.  Basically I used to subscribe to the Independent religion but damn these Theeves turn so nice I'm converted! 

Here's a before and after picture.  Had to retire them after I ground them to the axle.

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/b12f78d2.jpg)

Well after all the raving, the Theeves (like other trucks) are not perfect so here are my gripes.  The trucks seem to eat bushings.  I had to replace the bones hard bushings about twice a year because they would get a bulge effect.  Theres a lot of good info on this guys blog:

http://oldmanskater.blogspot.com/2011/10/theeve-trucks-review-part-5.html (http://oldmanskater.blogspot.com/2011/10/theeve-trucks-review-part-5.html)

Regardless of the bulge, it was never enough for me to want to switch back to Indys and  I recently splurged and got the TiH model with Titanium hanger.

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/c9e3818a.jpg)

Only had these a month but first impressions - First, holy crap they are LIGHT!  They feel like a tech deck toy in your hand.  Before riding them I was worried they would too light and mess up my flip tricks but that isn't the case and am really getting used to how light the board feels.  Turning is great and grinding is amazing.  The titanium hardly wears at all.  And I haven't been chunking up the curbs and ledges, it actually seems like the titanium polishes the curb smooth!  Sometimes pulverized curb dust blows in the wind after a long grind along with the smell of burning concrete!  Pretty trippy!  I'll post an update once I get some more milage. 



Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: dtotherob on July 01, 2012, 09:44:16 AM
great post. i like the tih's. i just wonder how long it will take to grind down to the 2 thin parts that hold them together. normally you would have an axle there.  interesting to find out but judging from your comment about how they grind and wear, it will probably take a while.


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on July 01, 2012, 07:03:32 PM
Yeah, it is pretty hollow where the traditional axle would go, its practically butterknife sharp is some spots! They scraped as much weight as possible on these things but the build seems solid.  Also, before I got them I was trying to find reviews and found a couple by 12-14yr old kids on youtube.  They all said the trucks barely wore down... but I just figured they're dumb little kids that only grinded metal skate park coping  ;D  Turns out the jokes on me and they are right!  I can roll down the sidewalk and do a long Cory Webster slash 5-0 on some raw 'crete and it just basically scrataches the truck up  :)


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: susej on July 02, 2012, 06:31:15 AM
Great post.

And I did about 30 Corey Webster 5-0s today.


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on July 05, 2012, 02:36:46 PM
Great post.

And I did about 30 Corey Webster 5-0s today.

Haha, definitely one of my all time favorite tricks!  That would be a great Thrasher video contest...


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on November 13, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
OK, update since I've been riding the TiH for about six months now. Like I posted before, the grinding is amazing with the titanium hanger!  I know Grosso calls these things a gimmick but they do grind better than any truck I've ridden.  Also, Grosso forgot to mention the biggest gimmick off all - they spark! I can get these things to spark like crazy on rough, unwaxed sidewalk. 

As far as wear goes, I'm just now starting to get some very faint grooves from crooked grinds, 5050s and 5-0's. Its gonna take a long time to grind through these things. That said, there is the argument that these trucks destroy ledges/coping.  I personally haven't chunked up my local spots but I'll admit to seeing dust clouds after long grinds.  I think the bigger issue with chunky ledges is shitty concrete, improper technique and lack of wax.

Last but not least, the price. They do grind the best, turn amazing and are the lightest/strongest trucks out there but at $120 per set, I honestly couldn't recommend the TiH unless that kind of money is disposable to you.  What if you lost your board, or it was stolen?? Thats a big loss.  The TIAX on the other hand, I recommend whole heartedly.


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on November 13, 2012, 06:06:15 PM
Hard to get a good pic but the crooked groove is starting to show
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/9F5D130D-6AF8-4A6C-B4A5-2AF42F71D790-5283-0000068B5E30525B.jpg)


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on November 13, 2012, 06:14:02 PM
Back truck
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/thxmg23/63999B76-059D-45B2-BEE4-D8DC65D28A93-5283-0000068F92B1ECE0.jpg)
These are the 5.5 size, fits 8.1 Deck perfect. And 55 bones.


Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on March 07, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Bump for an update.  Still stoked on these trucks however they are sticky on beat up angle iron.  Most metal coped ledges and ramp coping grinds really good but angle iron that has lots of dings and serrated edges will come to a quick halt. One example are the ledges at the Richmond plaza, perfect ledges with thin metal coping.  With the TIAX I could lock into long crooked grinds around the C bench and the ledge would actually cut a deep groove into the trucks. On the same ledge, the TiH will grind but isn't as consistent and doesn't feel as smooth.  So if the majority of your grinds are beat up metal skatepark ledges I would not recommend this truck.



Title: Re: Theeve Truck Review: TIAX and TiH
Post by: m477 on October 04, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
Bump from the dead.  Well, I took a bit of a hiatus from theeve because I wanted to try out the Indy stage 11 (old habits die hard). They redialed their geometry and I wanted to test it out.  It was a bit weird I must admit - Going from the lightest truck (theeve tih 5.5) to damn near the heaviest truck (indy 149). I don't really have much to say about the stage 11 indys, they are the same indy goodness you'd expect.  I rode them for the past year but recently started riding the TiH again the past couple weeks. 

Here's my final 2 cents/conclusion:

Grinding: The TiH kinda sucks at grinding metal.  When they were new, there was no issue.  But once they started getting wear and grooves I started having problems. Sometimes its smooth as silk but most of the time it grinds to a halt.  Its such a bummer. Its not just beat up metal coping - Even on perfect mini ramp metal coping, a 50-50 quickly turns into an axle stall.  However, the TiH is absolutely the king of concrete grinding.  Nothing even comes close (you can quote me on that!).  Slappy grinds in particular, the TiH absolutely crushes curbs, with sparks to boot.

Turning: Like I said earlier, Indys turn great but the Theeve has a quicker, nicer turn in response and is much more stable during high speed hill bombs.

Weight: After riding Indy, TIAX and TiH, weight is kind of a moot point to me now.  I love the heavy, solid feeling of Indy but I also love the lighting quick reaction of the TiH.

To end this convoluted post, both trucks are awesome and have I have multiple setups now.