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Title: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 04, 2012, 10:44:33 AM
Ok, so my Ricta Boltz (49's) are coming to the end of their life. which is a shame because i really liked them. They're pretty small, covered in crap and i want/need to try something new.

The Bones Bingaman STF 51's took my fancy.

So what i really want to know is...   Bones or Ricta? and why?



Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: schit_yo on December 04, 2012, 02:45:53 PM
With all due respect, I don't see why anybody would buy 51's, let alone 49's. I don't buy anything smaller than 55's, but prefer 56's, would maybe check out some 57's again.

The advantages of 56's far outweigh the drawbacks.

the pros:
-Roll over cracks and pebbles easier
-Skate faster
-Don't get flat spots easily
-Last up to 2 years, not just 2 or 6 months

the cons:
-Get a bit more wheelbite, especially if you are chubby or your trucks are old.
-Heck, wheel technology is so good now, I can't even say "the wheels are heavier." Hardly.


As far as brand goes, I've never had Bones, but I'll stand by the Ricta Cores any day. Great brand, some of the best wheels out there. I'm riding the Spitfire Classics 55's right now, and my last set of wheels were the Santa Cruz OJ III's 56's. Those were some damn good wheels as well.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Toshiko Xiao on December 04, 2012, 04:07:06 PM
The village i live in in Hungary the minimum wheel i can skate is a 60 because the cobblestone. You have to be witty 2 skate in Hungary.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: dtotherob on December 04, 2012, 07:44:19 PM
spitfires.  56mm or bigger.  or GTFO.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 05, 2012, 06:27:35 AM
56's? so you skate alot of bowls/transitions? and these 49's are 15 months old now, wear and tear never really bothered me anyhow...

i use Death urethane 55's for my pool riding board, theyre really nice and fast as hell. but for street style skating i have never felt comfortable with anything over 53's. maybe its time for change? all i know is i didnt feel comfortable even ollying haha.

i've ordered the bones now anyway as i have never tried bones wheels, i'll see what theyre like and go for a size change next time around...

thanks for the input though guys.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 05, 2012, 06:55:34 AM
these remind me of how everyones wheels used to look when i first started skating in the uk in the 90's  haha! maybe growing up in that era is the basis for my preference of small wheels.


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=skateboarding+tiny+wheels&view=detail&id=15268211EAE31FD09DB8ED636B6E84256468D3EB (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=skateboarding+tiny+wheels&view=detail&id=15268211EAE31FD09DB8ED636B6E84256468D3EB)


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: outsider716 on December 05, 2012, 06:59:45 AM
SPITFIRES.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 05, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
i had a set of spitfires back in the early noughties that were an orangey red marble sort of colour and the had a picture of two skeletons throwing ignited petrol over eachother. they were pretty tough but i found that small stones got embedded in them. maybe they were just a low durometer rating.

just out of interest... anyone know the wheels i mean? would love to get another set (wishful thinking i know)


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: dtotherob on December 05, 2012, 04:06:44 PM
i've been riding basically the same setup since around '95 now.  i ride my 56's on all terrain.  street, ramp, park, doesn't matter.  you learn to ride the board you have so it's never mattered to me to have different setups for different terrains. 

i have a shoebox full of old small wheels from the '90's.  that shit is horrible and you should not go back.  i wore my last pair of spits down to 50's in 6 months so it's not like they stay huge for a long time.  i rode small risers before they came out with "tall" trucks. also, put a bit of wax where you wheel bite to prevent it. 

and i think i remember those wheels but not any of the details about them other than the color.

oh and this...

With all due respect, I don't see why anybody would buy 51's, let alone 49's. I don't buy anything smaller than 55's, but prefer 56's, would maybe check out some 57's again.

The advantages of 56's far outweigh the drawbacks.

the pros:
-Roll over cracks and pebbles easier
-Skate faster
-Don't get flat spots easily
-Last up to 2 years, not just 2 or 6 months

the cons:
-Get a bit more wheelbite, especially if you are chubby or your trucks are old.
-Heck, wheel technology is so good now, I can't even say "the wheels are heavier." Hardly.


As far as brand goes, I've never had Bones, but I'll stand by the Ricta Cores any day. Great brand, some of the best wheels out there. I'm riding the Spitfire Classics 55's right now, and my last set of wheels were the Santa Cruz OJ III's 56's. Those were some damn good wheels as well.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Toshiko Xiao on December 06, 2012, 05:15:39 AM
Rictas got a lotta good marketing i must say. haven't tried em out, but they really jazz up everything about them in catalogs. I only really like freestyle wheels and old vert wheels though.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Salamander on December 06, 2012, 10:30:04 AM
Bones, the only way to go!


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: killthegnar on December 06, 2012, 07:00:12 PM
i had a pair of rictas for about 20 minutes before i flatspotted the shit outta them. then months later my friend got a pair of rictas and i joked about how he was gonna flat spot them before the first day on them was done... 45 minutes into the first session with them he got flat spots...

needless to say I vote bones. However, right now im riding landsharks and i can only say great things about them. no flat spots, they havent worn down almost at all after months of riding... i just wish i got them a bit bigger to start but thats my fault


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: susej on December 07, 2012, 01:48:05 AM
The only wheels I've ever had that were worse than the ones I'm riding now were the one set of rictas I had about 3 years ago. As soon as my knee heals I'm throwing out my wheels and going back to bones.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 07, 2012, 05:43:52 AM
this might seem weird or impossible but i have owned rictas and spitfires and even some real cheap wheels called union i think but i have never ever EVER had a single flatspot. on any wheels.

and i dont exactly take it easy on my wheels. surely i cant just have been outrageously/impossibly lucky this whole time?



Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: dtotherob on December 07, 2012, 10:00:07 AM
it's not unusual.  i have a couple friends who hate spitfires.  they always got flatspots so they only roll bones.  personally, i haven't really had problems with them.  except for the park burners.  those are shit.   sure i get the occasional flatspot but its not often enough that i'm bummed, or really remember.  i'm not that easy on my gear either. 


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: SHitflea on December 07, 2012, 11:25:16 PM
OJ OJ OJ OJ

Oh Jay


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: m477 on December 08, 2012, 10:36:57 AM
Couple friends of mine are testing out a new spitfire formula. Until its released, I'm sticking with bones.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 10, 2012, 01:11:07 PM
its funny, on the slap mag forum everyone hates spitfires and rates stf's. i guess everyones different and all were hearing is opinion. although there is and overwhelming feel that spits really are hit n miss when it comes to product quality. some have lasted people a year some disintegrate in 20 minutes.

all i can say about the bones so far is that i wish i had gone for the V1 or V4 shape. the ones i have are the V2's and theyre a bit too skinny for my liking.

and to be honest theyre an 83B which is definately the softest ive had. going to give them theyre first run out at a sick indoor concrete park in UK on sunday. then i'll know the score...

i suppose SPF's next? makes sense, theyre harder arent they?


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Teds Wild on December 10, 2012, 08:31:16 PM
I love the bones STFs. I like to slide around.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: susej on December 11, 2012, 01:27:54 AM
83B the softest? Been skating steel wheels?


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 11, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
haha my bad i meant hardest. same rating as my last ricta's.

anyone had the SPF's? theyre an 84B, i wonder, can you really tell the difference? im tempted by a 53 ish ssort of size for next time around.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Cameron Braswell on December 11, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
The Bones really won't flatspot but they have no grip at all, which can be fun but if your hauling ass around a turn or really need to slow down with a powerslide then they can get you killed. I haven't skated Ricta boltz but i've had the naturals and the cores, both of which were decent but a little rough to ride on and had too much grip for my prefernce. Spitfire classics are the best all around wheel though I would say, they will flatspot but it's extremely rare. You pretty much have to try to flatspot them, they also have enough grip to where a powerslide will actually slow you down, but at the same time they won't grip so much they fling you off. out of the two brands you asked about though I would have to go with the Bones.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: m477 on December 11, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
83B the softest? Been skating steel wheels?


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Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: m477 on December 11, 2012, 04:45:05 PM
haha my bad i meant hardest. same rating as my last ricta's.

anyone had the SPF's? theyre an 84B, i wonder, can you really tell the difference? im tempted by a 53 ish ssort of size for next time around.

I stick with the STF formula because I like to powerslide, bluntslide, etc.  In my experience softer wheels don't feel good sliding.

On the other hand, I will admit that Spitfires do 'feel' better than bones but I got sick of replacing flatspotted wheels after a first day noseslide or bluntslide  >:(


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Toshiko Xiao on December 12, 2012, 12:14:01 AM
just got some rollerskate wheels off ebay 4 cheap. they look cool and slide very nice. a little to slim 2 do all my primo tricks with though.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Skatessentials on December 12, 2012, 07:08:06 PM
This reminds me of way back when I used to ride little tiny wheels, like, a thin layer barely covering the bearings!  ::)


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: hydroponica on December 24, 2012, 01:30:33 PM
53 mm bones stf wheels are amazing. ive had a few sets and im in love with them. i used to like satori alot but i cant find them unless i order online.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 24, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
just had my new STF's on skating a small concrete park which had dirt which was like gritty sand in some area's. predictably the wheels took some light damage from the stones, a couple of small chips and one minor groove in one wheel. but the way it rode through those rough patches was amazing. everyone else there was suffering from stoprocks but the bones were fine. definately worth a shot.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: susej on December 25, 2012, 03:11:44 AM
A few chips and a minor groove? WTF are you talking about?


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Lewis Batten on December 25, 2012, 06:06:17 PM
there were a few tiny chips in a couple of the wheels from the stones. one wheel had a little chunk taken out which left a small groove. what im saying is that i still had control on shitty terrain.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Babe, Mr. Ruth if you're Nasty on December 25, 2012, 09:02:27 PM
I've been riding Spitfires for years. I, however, prefer OJ Wheels. I had the Screwdriver 56mm conic shape a few years back and I loved them. I had a pair of Autobahn 56mm, which were alright for a cored wheel.

I still stick with Spits or OJ nowadays. All about personal preference.


Title: Re: Ricta or bones?
Post by: Tim on December 31, 2012, 11:38:43 AM
Neither.

I've ridden a ton of wheels over the last two years trying to find something that feels good (like the old petroleum based wheels did):

101a Landshark - Nice wheel, felt like a cross between Ricta and Spitfire, a bit on the wide side. Only two shape choices.

99a Autobahn AB-S Series - Decent wheels, I got them too small, wish they were bigger or I'd have ridden them longer. They feel soft/sticky. Close in shape to STF V2s. Lots of sizes/shapes/durometers to choose from.
Autobahn Dual-Duros - 101 core 98a outside, didn't like them, too skinny and they felt soft on smooth concrete (great for rough terrain).

Ricta Chrome cores - Nice, hard, cool chirp sound =D no complaints. They're HARD. Wore down fast (got 50mm and did a lot of rough ditch skating with them). Re-learned bluntslides with them, no flatspots.
Ricta Speed Rings - Flatspotted one in under 15min at a park (Instead of pitching me I ended up stuck on a piece of mulch, stopping one wheel and sliding for 6-8’)

STFs (multiple times, old and new pours, new pours felt better but...) - I don't care for how they ride but they slide like crazy, especially with blunt slides - but they feel weird/plasticy. I rode them last night for the first time in weeks and instantly felt that weirdness, especially after riding my OJs the night before.

SPFs - love'em for pools, still have them setup.
Bones OG 100s - Hated them. They felt slow and sluggish, especially at parks.

Spitfire F1s - Mixed bag. Rode a set of Busenitz (Kill’em All) F1s and they were fine. Picked up a set of Cole AWOLS and they felt slow, yellowed faster than the busenitz. Both were hard, the Coles got a tiny flatspot in the first few sessions and somehow, the busenitz felt more like classics.

99a Spitfire Classics - riding these now, such good wheels; I love the way they feel and sound but their durability leaves a lot to be desired as they do wear down (no flatspots yet) fast.

OJs 101a - Nice feel to them, more like 'old school' wheels, hard to explain. Riding these now on my larger setup; tiny flatspot skating them in a park the first week, it's since worked it's way out.

I'm going to try a set of Spitfire F1s next as I want green wheels =D

OJs or Spits would be my recommendations.