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Title: 1992
Post by: curb cobain on December 29, 2008, 06:23:05 PM
i was just going through http://www.brainwashvictim.com/ and was kind of reminded how everything changed around 1992. i have seen it change when i was a kid, small wheels and stuff, but it just entered my mind that it really happened over night. i mean, isn't it weird, without a hint everything changes and will never be the same?

any conspiracy theories?


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: hardcoreskates on December 29, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
i have seen it change when i was a kid, small wheels and stuff,

any conspiracy theories?

Of course it's a conspiracy.  Small wheels suck and they make people who skate them look like idiots.  I've seen kids who ride small wheels actually pushing to go down a hill.  It's a concerted effort by skate companies to control how fast kids get going with their products: i.e. Liability.

In my book, anything smaller than a 58mm is useless.  When I skate, I wanna go fast.  Give me bigger wheels, or give me death! (preferably a 60mm to 63mm)

-M


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Paper/Scissors on December 29, 2008, 09:12:37 PM
I am a victim to this I guess.

I'm just going to change my set up until I start kickflipping 10 sets and nollie-ing gaps and shit.

I do see the disadvantages to small wheels though, I'm not an idiot.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: elastic back on December 29, 2008, 09:14:04 PM
In my book, anything smaller than a 58mm is useless.  When I skate, I wanna go fast.  Give me bigger wheels, or give me death! (preferably a 60mm to 63mm)

i ride 52s and skate some harsh terrain, yet i go pretty fast. big wheels limit some tricks and don't give you enough clearance sometimes. and they are heavy.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Flannel on December 29, 2008, 09:37:54 PM
I use 55's and I like skating fast


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: el ogrehound 3000 on December 29, 2008, 09:45:37 PM
In my book, anything smaller than a 58mm is useless.  When I skate, I wanna go fast.  Give me bigger wheels, or give me death! (preferably a 60mm to 63mm)

+1 sir.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: colorblindbowen on December 29, 2008, 11:48:44 PM
55's are where it's at.  Isn't it funny how much of a difference a few MM can make?  I don't see how kids rock 49s and shit.  I don't really see the advantage.  I guess it makes it easier to grind ledges and shit, because your truck isn't angled as much.  But fuck that!  I level it out by grinding a groove to the axel in the back truck...


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: C H U C K on December 30, 2008, 01:45:16 AM
I remember the lil weenies and the small wheels. it was the time when all the pressure flips and all the weenie tech stuff came out. Most of us were still trying to blaze and then there was the little donk doing a pop shove it at a half a mile an hour listening to Pennywise, or Sublime,  sportin the huge pants.

Huge pants, Little wheels........................................  ???


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: bailgun on December 30, 2008, 02:45:45 AM
GOSH DURN IT THESE WACKY TEENAGERS WITH THEIR MODERN MANEUVERS MAKE ME ANGRY.

that's what you guys sound like, you know. just saying.

and curb, the "conspiracy" you speak of was vert. in a move of epic stupidity, the industry spent much of the 80's trying to convince kids that vert ramps and skatepark bowls were the only thing worth riding a skateboard on. 

then kids in the other 99% of the world outside of california told their dinosaur asses to shut the fuck up with the sound of a million slappies. then all that silly pressure flip shit happened. blame rocco.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: hardcoreskates on December 30, 2008, 04:26:19 AM
I was being overly dramatic in that earlier post.  I think wheel size is pretty much dependent on what kind of skating one plans on doing and where (riding surface).  there is no conspiracy, just practicality.  If your gonna skate technical street shit, then smaller, harder wheels are what ya need.  Still, it seems companies went off the deep end when it came to making wheels, decks and trucks smaller and smaller.  I'm seeing a backlash against this these days.  The most common requests I get at the shop are:

Decks- 8" to 8.25"
Trucks- standard 8"
Wheels- 54mm and up

What I think is lacking these days is a variety in wheel durometer.  It seems wheels are ultra hard (heading into the b scale) or marshmallow soft (78a).  I always got a kick out of experimenting with different wheel hardness...  finding what duro worked best (in my own opinion) for the riding surface.  If ya look hard enough, it's still out there.

(http://www.skateone.com/i/prod/250x250/WSBARAT6090G4.jpg)
(http://www.awhsales.com/ecomm/images/PRODUCT/medium/20SPI0532.jpg)
(http://www.skatesonhaight.com/v/vspfiles/photos/BWCG-2.jpg)
(http://www.evogear.com/imgp/320/19182.Image.1.jpg)

-M

p.s.  I'm not the kind of skater that hangs out on the corner playing a game of horse.  That kind of shit isn't fun for me.  I like bigger wheels 'cause I like to haul ass...  move around...  go places.  To each there own, though.  As long as you're having fun,  that is what's important!







Title: Re: 1992
Post by: one on December 30, 2008, 07:18:47 AM
I can pretty much tell you exactly how it happened.  Jemery Klein, probably the most popular skater at the time, had an interview in transworld where he said he always skated other peoples old wheels.  Around 40mm or 45, I don't remember exactly what he said.  The next day everyone was riding small wheels. 

Also, he started the cut off shoe trend.  At the time high tops were popular.  Jeremy would cut his down and duct tape the tops. 


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Johnny Copp on December 30, 2008, 09:47:57 AM
i was just going through [url]http://www.brainwashvictim.com/[/url] and was kind of reminded how everything changed around 1992. i have seen it change when i was a kid, small wheels and stuff, but it just entered my mind that it really happened over night. i mean, isn't it weird, without a hint everything changes and will never be the same?

any conspiracy theories?


I think back then with the lack of the internet and just a minute amount of media coverage as compared to today, kids like myself that were in the Midwest just didn't see "changes" until the next video.    Back then videos were way less frequent and at the small wheel time there was an explosion of innovation in flip tricks.   Every video and almost everyones part had some NBD in it.   At least that's what the "street" skater market was after at that time.   Some companies figured it out.   Rocco definitely figured it out.   

Around that time is when dudes(in the Midwest at least) that kept it to transition seemed to quit and those that kept on were looking for the smallest wheel to make my board lighter and flip easier.    I was a victim of pressure flips.    Judging by how many other people were rocking 42mm s and mezmorized by New Deal's 1281.....yeah we all headed in the wrong direction.    Skating slow with no regard for properness.

For the record I'm back up to 56mms again from a good ten years of only 52-54mms.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: curb cobain on December 30, 2008, 11:01:57 AM
i just thought it's weird that it changed over night. wheels size, decks, no rails anymore, the clothes, everything. the wheels dropped from 63 to 39 in 2 weeks or something ;)


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: brown thrasher on December 30, 2008, 12:08:50 PM
cut airwalk enigmas(olive green)  with duct tape were the jam back then.
haha.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Jason Shrack on March 10, 2009, 08:25:06 AM
I actaully bought a set of Firm 37.5mm wheels.  25 bucks and they were useless and only got more useless as the minutes went on while riding them


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: elastic back on March 10, 2009, 08:34:44 AM
I actaully bought a set of Firm 37.5mm wheels.  25 bucks and they were useless and only got more useless as the minutes went on while riding them

are you serious? with 37.5mm wheels, you are asking for a pebble toss!


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: The Westwood on March 10, 2009, 08:40:49 AM
55mm+.  I've pretty much committed to Bones' ditch tech formula for life.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: pawnzito on March 10, 2009, 09:55:59 AM
I remember rocking 49mm at one time in the 90s. Also had these corduroys that were really meant for a grown man, but I cut the legs off exactly at the ankles so they looked like those ridiculously huge pants I saw in magazines and shit.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Hefeweizen on March 10, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
I was 5 in 1992. I knee styled it on an old school Wal-Mart Nash 'till I was like 10 and by that time it was the Muska, tall ass Fury trucks with dooks short stacks and huge wheels. I liked that era, the late 90's. Does anyone remember JNCO's?
8's are where it's at, I think people are starting to realize that skateboarding isn't about one style anymore. If you wanna skate everything, you need a proper axe to do it on. You don't need to skate a ceiling fan blade to do 360 flips.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: elastic back on March 10, 2009, 11:13:47 AM
Does anyone remember JNCO's?

unfortunately. please tell me you didn't have some.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Babe, Mr. Ruth if you're Nasty on March 10, 2009, 11:21:27 AM
(http://www.porterstahoe.com/istarimages/mp/22221044!BULLE-121154.jpg)

Fuck black and white wheels. Orange is where it's at. These wheels are amazing. I ride 56mm. I'm down with OJ, Spits too. 54+ Spits are all their wheels that I ride.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Hefeweizen on March 10, 2009, 11:35:19 AM
Does anyone remember JNCO's?

unfortunately. please tell me you didn't have some.

I just remember they were like the quintessential HUGE fuckin' pants.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Babe, Mr. Ruth if you're Nasty on March 10, 2009, 02:25:46 PM
No love for Phat Klown?


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: el ogrehound 3000 on March 10, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
Eight Ball bitches.

Bilnd jeans were the shit back then too, and I had one pair of Markovich's Tea-Bags.  horrible.

Damn you Pacific Drive and all of your cool influence on a young me!!


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: C H U C K on March 10, 2009, 03:17:42 PM
I remember laughing at all the phat jeans people back then with their flares dragging about.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: pawnzito on March 10, 2009, 04:09:22 PM
God, I just remembered shaved eyebrows. That shit was weird


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: dtotherob on March 10, 2009, 04:22:52 PM
i remember new deal big deal jeans, and the cut enigmas.  how about REAL real small wheels. they came in a six pack. and velvet graphics.  maybe a randy colvin? vallely i think had one too.

i ride 58mm now.


Title: Re: 1992
Post by: Jason Shrack on March 11, 2009, 06:52:39 AM
I actaully bought a set of Firm 37.5mm wheels.  25 bucks and they were useless and only got more useless as the minutes went on while riding them

are you serious? with 37.5mm wheels, you are asking for a pebble toss!

It was '92 and I was not to savvy.  I currently am riding some nice 54mm Koston Spits.  Anyone remember those New Deal (I think) wheels that were "low profile" that had a riding surface of maybe 15 or 20mm?  Another set of awful wheels I had back then were a set of Daredevils (made by Consolidated) with the plastic cores.  They were 43mm, I believe, and after a while the wheel started spinning around the plastic core instead of the bearing.