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Title: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: 666 on February 19, 2009, 04:53:52 PM
How much lower are the low's to the standards?  Is there much difference?  I bought some standards when I thought they were lows, but i'm enjoying riding them.  Just wondering how much diff in height there is.  Anyone?


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 19, 2009, 05:01:27 PM
I've heard from many that grenade lows are much better than Indy lows.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: hardcoreskates on February 19, 2009, 05:20:08 PM
How much lower are the low's to the standards?  Is there much difference?  I bought some standards when I thought they were lows, but i'm enjoying riding them.  Just wondering how much diff in height there is.  Anyone?

It's not much of difference.  I'd say about 1/8 inch, maybe 3/16.

There is some logic to buying low trucks.  You can always buy risers and make 'em higher.  Ya can't lower standard trucks.

I don't know if lows turn as well as standards though.  I've always been on standards.

-M


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: 666 on February 19, 2009, 06:35:32 PM
I went back to indys after having horrid gullwings for years, and I can't beleive I was away so long.  The standards are so nice to ride & turn on, but a lil more lowness would be nice I guess.  I guess i'm only just getting back on the board after a bunch of years, so higher trucks will be more forgiving till I start trying to do flips again.  If the Lows don't turn as nicely, then I think i'll definitely stick with the Standards.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Hugs on February 19, 2009, 06:36:54 PM
What benefit could lows give?


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: 666 on February 19, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
What benefit could lows give?

Lower centre of gravity?  Easier to flip something lower to the ground?  Closer to rails when grinding?  All probably details I wouldn't notice at the moment, anyway.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: pawnzito on February 19, 2009, 07:44:26 PM
always ridden standards, low trucks seem to offer me nothing more than less play between the board and my wheels.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: 666 on February 19, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
always ridden standards, low trucks seem to offer me nothing more than less play between the board and my wheels.

It's the lack of pivot for ollies that'd hit me I think.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: the redline on February 19, 2009, 10:16:37 PM
I dig the lows.  I also dig throwing low bushings on regulars...no cutting down bushings necessary.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: elastic back on February 19, 2009, 10:24:59 PM
i skate krux downlows. low trucks are better for snapping ollies quick since they aer closer to the ground.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 19, 2009, 10:48:26 PM
I dig the lows.  I also dig throwing low bushings on regulars...no cutting down bushings necessary.
Not a bad idea, why didn't I think of that. Do they sell "low" bushings seperately by chance?


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: the redline on February 20, 2009, 12:09:08 AM
Whdink.

http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/shop_productdetail.aspx?ProductID=19494

Might have to stock up mahself.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 20, 2009, 03:44:51 AM
Whdink.

[url]http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/shop_productdetail.aspx?ProductID=19494[/url]

Might have to stock up mahself.

Noycee. Goin to the shop to get some threads today so I'm picking those up too if I come across them. Thanks.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Royal With Cheese on February 20, 2009, 05:15:01 AM
Whdink.

[url]http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/shop_productdetail.aspx?ProductID=19494[/url]

Might have to stock up mahself.

Personally I hate stock indy bushings, they break with the quickness


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: pawnzito on February 20, 2009, 10:50:45 AM
Whdink.

[url]http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/shop_productdetail.aspx?ProductID=19494[/url]

Might have to stock up mahself.

Personally I hate stock indy bushings, they break with the quickness

I always swap for bones myself.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: rawbertson on February 20, 2009, 01:16:20 PM
the standard truck with the orange bushings to me feels like default mode. i can fuck around with lows and different bushings or whatever but i feel like im accomodating my style to work with different setups, that classic one i have skated for at least 5 years and when i step on my friend's trucks they feel gay cause they ride ventures and thunders... those are good trucks too but they are too light for me they feel too weak.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Brent212 on February 20, 2009, 01:42:50 PM
i skate krux downlows. low trucks are better for snapping ollies quick since they aer closer to the ground.

It seems like the lower the truck, the more difficult it'd be to ollie. At least, carpet ollieing a deck with itself is hard as fuck. Maybe I'll give some downlows a try to see what's up though. My ollies suck balls.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: elastic back on February 20, 2009, 02:19:34 PM
i skate krux downlows. low trucks are better for snapping ollies quick since they aer closer to the ground.

It seems like the lower the truck, the more difficult it'd be to ollie. At least, carpet ollieing a deck with itself is hard as fuck. Maybe I'll give some downlows a try to see what's up though. My ollies suck balls.

do you snap your ollies or stomp your ollies? standard trucks are easier if you stomp your ollies. you should try learning to snap your ollies...they won't suck balls anymore. i started as a stomper. it just makes things difficult and sloppy.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: pawnzito on February 20, 2009, 02:20:15 PM
i skate krux downlows. low trucks are better for snapping ollies quick since they aer closer to the ground.

It seems like the lower the truck, the more difficult it'd be to ollie. At least, carpet ollieing a deck with itself is hard as fuck. Maybe I'll give some downlows a try to see what's up though. My ollies suck balls.
Trucks won't make your ollies any cleaner, only practice will.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: curb cobain on February 20, 2009, 03:16:26 PM
whenever i step on a board that's not mine, i look like i've never even skated before, because everyone rides their trucks way too hard.
i feel so dumb, i just want to push along and suddenly i have to step off because the board feels like it's moving on a monorail or something ;)

and busted indy stock bushings are just fine.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: bailgun on February 20, 2009, 07:55:30 PM
i didn't even know people changed out their bushings until a couple years ago when i heard some dudes debating hardness.

i just laughed. and i'm still laughing.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: elastic back on February 21, 2009, 05:41:42 AM
buy krux and you don't have to. best bushings.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 21, 2009, 07:04:42 AM
buy krux and you don't have to. best bushings.
worste kingpin. For me at least.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Royal With Cheese on February 21, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
buy krux and you don't have to. best bushings.
worste kingpin. For me at least.
yeah I'm still baffled how do you loosen or tighten the trucks?


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: TheBird on February 21, 2009, 02:45:04 PM
I change the bushings too i ride the bushings of my first trucks i think that are some white doh dohs! As for low trucks i dont know it seems no difference to me when i skate but if you notice the gap between the kingpin and metal surface in standard trucks is bigger, so it takes more time for the truck to get so fucked up that u start to grind with the kingpin! So i ride standard!


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: elastic back on February 21, 2009, 04:20:34 PM
buy krux and you don't have to. best bushings.
worste kingpin. For me at least.
yeah I'm still baffled how do you loosen or tighten the trucks?

i love the kingpins. i don't hang up on my smithgrinds with them.

you use an allen wrench to loosen them. why would you tighten them? honestly, i don't get why some people have the constant urge to always mess with their kingpins. i might adjust them once in the beginning but them hardly ever (if ever) mess with them again. most of the time i just ride them how they come because once they break in, they are perfect.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: bailgun on February 21, 2009, 11:31:38 PM


you use an allen wrench to loosen them. why would you tighten them?
sh-sh-sh-shredding!!!


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 22, 2009, 06:19:27 AM


you use an allen wrench to loosen them. why would you tighten them?
sh-sh-sh-shredding!!!
They are nice trucks don't get me wrong. They grind really nice and the turning radius is near perfect and smooth but the kingpin is stripped and they come out of the cup all of the time so I can't tighten them.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Babe, Mr. Ruth if you're Nasty on February 22, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
I tend to shred (no pun intended) my stock bushings. And it's either from Turning, or rough lands.

I then buy red doh-dohs. That's all I seem to use.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: dtotherob on February 22, 2009, 11:38:15 AM
i ride regular krux 4.0's.  i also swapped out the regular kingpin for the grind king ones. no hanging up. stage 10's do look nice.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: stewpidphuck on February 22, 2009, 05:54:41 PM
hanging up has nothing to do with kingpin, at least thats the case for me. im down for krux i guess. ron whaley is a badass


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Brent212 on February 22, 2009, 07:32:11 PM
i skate krux downlows. low trucks are better for snapping ollies quick since they aer closer to the ground.

It seems like the lower the truck, the more difficult it'd be to ollie. At least, carpet ollieing a deck with itself is hard as fuck. Maybe I'll give some downlows a try to see what's up though. My ollies suck balls.

do you snap your ollies or stomp your ollies? standard trucks are easier if you stomp your ollies. you should try learning to snap your ollies...they won't suck balls anymore. i started as a stomper. it just makes things difficult and sloppy.

What is this snapping of ollies that you speak of? I totally need to do that.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 22, 2009, 07:42:07 PM
I tend to shred (no pun intended) my stock bushings. And it's either from Turning, or rough lands.

I then buy red doh-dohs. That's all I seem to use.
This happens to you too? My indy bushings are shredded as well as my cores. I don't bother to swap em out, but maybe one day.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: the redline on February 22, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
i skate krux downlows. low trucks are better for snapping ollies quick since they aer closer to the ground.

It seems like the lower the truck, the more difficult it'd be to ollie. At least, carpet ollieing a deck with itself is hard as fuck. Maybe I'll give some downlows a try to see what's up though. My ollies suck balls.

do you snap your ollies or stomp your ollies? standard trucks are easier if you stomp your ollies. you should try learning to snap your ollies...they won't suck balls anymore. i started as a stomper. it just makes things difficult and sloppy.

What is this snapping of ollies that you speak of? I totally need to do that.

Get really hyper (Red Bull, coffee, Sparks, beer) and go skate and you will usually end up snapping hecka high ollies.  Get them feet up, jump around a little bit, get retarded...

Stomping ollies leads to bad skating, I have found.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: elastic back on February 23, 2009, 07:05:39 AM
hanging up has nothing to do with kingpin, at least thats the case for me.

i don't mean hanging up in the sense of coming back in from a disaster or rock in tranny but where your kingpin digs into a ledge or something on a smith grind. if the ledge is not super smooth or uber waxed, regular kingpins can dig into them and stop you, no matter how fast you go...assuming they are dipped properly. that has been my experience from when i used to skate ventures at least. but it has been a while since i have skated anything other than krux. it has probably been almost 10 years since i skated a set of indys.

What is this snapping of ollies that you speak of? I totally need to do that.

a lot of thunder footed people stop their ollies and their boards detach from their feet and look really ugly. you might be able to get those high, but the timing and accuracy on them is horrible. if you user your toes or maybe even t he ball of your feet and just snap/flick your tail, you can work on your timing and get a much cleaner ollie, which helps will all your other tricks that involve popping. make sense?


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: Brent212 on February 23, 2009, 11:45:43 AM
a lot of thunder footed people stop their ollies and their boards detach from their feet and look really ugly. you might be able to get those high, but the timing and accuracy on them is horrible. if you user your toes or maybe even t he ball of your feet and just snap/flick your tail, you can work on your timing and get a much cleaner ollie, which helps will all your other tricks that involve popping. make sense?

Totally sounds like my ollies. I don't know when it happened, but somewhere along the line my feet started coming off the board when I ollie, and it sucks. I got no control. It probably has something to do with getting old, getting stiff joints/fucked ankles. I'll try paying more attention to the whole "use your toe instead of your whole foot" thing, which I think is what you're saying.


Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: hardcoreskates on February 23, 2009, 06:40:17 PM

if you user your toes or maybe even t he ball of your feet and just snap/flick your tail, you can work on your timing and get a much cleaner ollie, which helps will all your other tricks that involve popping. make sense?

A couple too many letters in spots, but yes...  it makes sense.  I snap ollies with the ball of my foot and my big toe.  That's how I get up curbs anyways.



Title: Re: Indy Stage 10 Low vs Standard?
Post by: the redline on February 23, 2009, 07:03:59 PM
a lot of thunder footed people stop their ollies and their boards detach from their feet and look really ugly. you might be able to get those high, but the timing and accuracy on them is horrible. if you user your toes or maybe even t he ball of your feet and just snap/flick your tail, you can work on your timing and get a much cleaner ollie, which helps will all your other tricks that involve popping. make sense?

Totally sounds like my ollies. I don't know when it happened, but somewhere along the line my feet started coming off the board when I ollie, and it sucks. I got no control. It probably has something to do with getting old, getting stiff joints/fucked ankles. I'll try paying more attention to the whole "use your toe instead of your whole foot" thing, which I think is what you're saying.

There's another thread about "ollie souths"...I filmed myself and instantly picked up the problem...I was snapping out with my back foot instead of down.  Now my feet usually stay stuck like glue.  It's pretty great.