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« on: June 19, 2009, 07:53:04 AM »

All Things Considered, June 18, 2009 ยท The U.S. Senate apologized Thursday for slavery and for the segregationist Jim Crow laws, 144 years after the Civil War and 45 years after passing the Civil Rights Act.

The action came in a nonbinding resolution adopted unanimously by voice vote.

The Senate chamber was nearly empty as Iowa Democrat Tom Harkin rose to call for a measure that he said was long overdue for the descendants of 4 million blacks who were enslaved in the U.S.

"A national apology by the representative body of the people is a necessary collective response to a past collective injustice," Harkin said. "So, it is both appropriate and imperative that Congress fulfill its moral obligation and officially apologize for slavery and Jim Crow laws."

The resolution states the congressional apology is made to African-Americans on behalf of the people of the United States for "the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors." That is followed, however, by a disclaimer that says nothing in the resolution authorizes any claim against the United States.

Kansas Republican Sam Brownback, who co-sponsored the measure, says that disclaimer was necessary to win the support of senators who feared the apology could be used by African-Americans seeking reparations.

"It was a difficult negotiation," he says. "We had to get the reparation issue right."

Last year, the House passed a similar resolution, but without the reparations disclaimer.

New York Democratic Rep. Gregory Meeks, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, says he isn't sure he supports the Senate's reparations disclaimer.

"If it ... can be construed to mean that ... it rules out [reparations], then that's a problem," Meeks says.

Tennessee Democrat Steve Cohen, who sponsored last year's House resolution, says he hopes the House passes the Senate's apology soon, but he wants it done by voice vote.

"This should be a congenial, kumbaya moment," he says. "A roll call could expose some fissures in what should be a cohesive spirit of apology and rectitude and more perfect union."


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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 08:18:59 AM »

this is stupid... I don't think anyone needs to appologize for something that happened so long ago. I guess all the current surviving slaves can feel better now, right?
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 08:22:12 AM »

It's not that. You can't apologize for something you didn't do.

So I guess Germany is in their right mind to apologize for the holocaust. How is that supposed to sound? "Sorry that someone from our country happened to be a lunatic, my bad, everyone from Germany is sorry".
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 09:53:17 AM »

this is stupid... I don't think anyone needs to appologize for something that happened so long ago. I guess all the current surviving slaves can feel better now, right?
really? I mean it never hurts to say your sorry
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 09:59:29 AM »

It's not that. You can't apologize for something you didn't do.

So I guess Germany is in their right mind to apologize for the holocaust. How is that supposed to sound? "Sorry that someone from our country happened to be a lunatic, my bad, everyone from Germany is sorry".

uhh, the governement at the time allowed it. it is the same government, just different representatives. think of the governement as the "you" and not the representatives. it is about social responsibility. at least someone noted that it has never been done and is taking a stand now, even if it is waaaay over due.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 10:37:02 AM »

it is, but I'm sure there's a reason for this
how much do you want to bet that next time a black person brings up the fact that blacks have, live, a %25 higher poverty rate than whites, the senate will just shrug and just say, "well we said sorry, what else do you want us to do?"
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 10:45:36 AM »

I'm suprised they aren't throwing some equal rights lingo in there to make it
a two for one deal
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 08:23:54 PM »

I ain't do shit. That was the Spanish/French/Portugese/English.
And people seem to forget that slavery happened in latin america as well, the majority of slaves were sent to Brazil. Which is why some Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and Brazilians look like regular black people or look like they're mixed with black like our many great latino baseball players.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 08:25:30 PM »

I think only like 5% of slaves were sent to the US.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 07:11:07 AM »

well, you are not the one apologizing, the government is because the government was responsible for what happened, not you. make sense?

also, our government is responsible for what happened here, not in south america...however, those weren't even independent countries anyway. they were settlements by european countries, so those european countries should be accountable for what happened there. we were an independent nation and thus our governments owes an apology.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 07:18:40 AM »

THANKS FOR THE APOLOGY NOW WHERE ARE MY REPARATIONS?
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2009, 09:13:27 AM »

uhh, the governement at the time allowed it. it is the same government, just different representatives. think of the governement as the "you" and not the representatives. it is about social responsibility. at least someone noted that it has never been done and is taking a stand now, even if it is waaaay over due.

Agreed!  Well said.  Now, does this mean we can expect an apology for all of the "White people act like this..." jokes on BET?
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 10:16:57 AM »

uhh, the governement at the time allowed it. it is the same government, just different representatives. think of the governement as the "you" and not the representatives. it is about social responsibility. at least someone noted that it has never been done and is taking a stand now, even if it is waaaay over due.

Agreed!  Well said.  Now, does this mean we can expect an apology for all of the "White people act like this..." jokes on BET?


You're serious?   You're comparing a joke to 400 years of kidnappings and transplanting millions of people to a foreign land,   for  what?......unpaid wages,  forced breeding of "the bigger ones", rape, mutalations, murder, and not to mention just being a piece of property.   3/5ths of a person for political gain.

The black person you next see, their grandparents couldn't vote, even when blacks were "allowed" to vote there were still attempts to stifle the black vote all the way up to lets say........you guessed it....today.

Yup BET is harsh on us white folk.    They should fucking apologize.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2009, 10:26:15 AM »

Calm down, it was just a joke.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2009, 10:34:40 AM »

yeah....no harm no foul.....its hard to "reed" sarcasm
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