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generally the shape and quality wont change to much with a brand like zero. there fantastic decks,

^ thanks buddy i appreciate the positive feedback, i think this is the first forum where not everybody is at each others neck. i deffinately agree with you about the griptape. we usualy get stocked with jessup and the company started bringing in mob grip. the only advantage of mob is that its thicker and more gritty which will be good for new timers. if any expierenced skater comes in its only jessup hands down, the glue is alot stronger and since its a thinner grip it allows for exceptional fit, doesnt peel, and doesnt ruin your shoes. Also with the bearings can anyone actually explain what the "abec means?" all i know is the lower the abec the stronger but slower the bearing. i personally skated shake junt 7's, they lasted 2 weeks. i bought abec 5's because thats all we got and it was the best longest lasting bearing ive ridden.

I would also like to know peoples opinions on constructions of boards? like elements feather light, plan b's pro light, p2 and normal 7 and 8 ply decks.

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West 49? Must be a West Coast thing. I ain't judging. We gotta do what we gotta do to get by.


I just won a Habitat in a Raffle a week ago. I have yet to grip and rip. However, I believe you cannot go wrong with any board from Deluxe. Good Wood, good Shapes. I am slowly turning away from the Popsicle Stick shapes and skating funky shapes,  ( the Habitat Board I have is essentially the Grosso shape). I kinda hate Element decks, and $lave decks. Anything with gimmicky or weed graphics sucks. Don't give a kid a board with a Pot Leaf on it. No gimmicks either. Skateboarding was doing just fine until people realized the only way they can do tricks is if the board is filled with Fiberglass or Helium.

For trucks, I reccomend Independent. I've been skating them for several years and I would not skate anything else. Just match up the sizes (129,139,149 etc.) to the size of the board. Smaller mm for smaller boards. Raw silver colored trucks are cheaper and are the SAME EXACT TRUCKS as the painted ones. Don't buy into that shit.

For Wheels, I am less selective. I usually ride Spitfire, but the reemergence of OJ into the market has steered me towards them. I've never really had a problem with flatspots. I usually skate 55mm+ wheels because they allow for speed, but they also have a large riding surface. A good, all-around size for first timers would be anything from 52mm - 54mm. The only wheels I cannot really stand are wheels made by deck companies.

Bearings are bearings. I usually skate Independent ABEC-5's. I have no idea what is so illustrious about the ABEC-7's. Can't go wrong with Bones Reds. Cheap bearings work just as well as the $100 Bones Swiss Ceramics.

Griptape is difference. I used to like MOB but then it got all gimmicky with logos and shit all over it. It feels like I am skating a NASCAR instead of a skateboard. I use Alchemy, but you won't get it in stores. Check out AlchemyGrip.com. If you can't wait for it, I suggest a sheet of Jessup in Solid Black. Can't go wrong.

The way I see it, if it is a Kids first board, do not overload them with gimmicks and shit they don't need. To me, a first board should be something that a kid can mess around on and get a feel for skateboarding. I hope this helps steer them in the right direction.

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Hey guys i don't want this to look like some thread for kids to just brag about there setups. I work at West 49 (dont judge) and im the only dude there that knows skate to an extent. what i want to know is what kind of boards people are riding. Brand and even size of equipment you use and what you like and dislike about them so i can spread the knowledge to my coworkers so i dont have to watch them fumble around acting like idiots while trying to sell a kid there first skateboard. For example i try and only ride REAL decks for there bigger boxier noses and tails and how concave they are in an 8.38 with indy 149's for there response and reliability and bones stf for there speed and there ability to not flatspot! so let me know whatcha got so i can educate my coworkers so we can benefit the youngins that come into the store!

sick man, im from kelowna bc, if you guys ever come down here shoot me a message and you got a place to sleep, just bring beer. haha. im born and raised here so i know all the good parks and hidden locations in the area

I see no difference. If the shape is sick, I'll skate it. All skateboards are made relatively the same.

i'm gonna have to catch the last half of this when i get home.

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