palin changes name, moves to oregon...

[the redline]

There's a difference between "sheltering" and "getting annoyed when your kid falls for bullshit, especially when it preys on damaging trends like self-abuse."

I'm also saying that if my kid brought a book of commercialized cartoon rabbits killing themselves home and I found it, I'd wonder what I was doing wrong before I wondered what the library was doing wrong.

[bailgun]

raise them right, and they see through bullshit anyway.
one of the worst things you can do to a kid is treat them like a child.

[Thee Gnartical Adventure]

I'd wonder what I was doing wrong before I wondered what the library was doing wrong.

agreed

one of the worst things you can do to a kid is treat them like a child.

agreed...

ultimately i guess.. there's a gray line between your son and your best friend... but eventually it should even out.

[the redline]

Kids want to have fun and play with Legos and shit too...there's a balance, I think.  You gotta let them have a childhood.  Maybe I'm wrong, though...less than 200 years ago, kids were expected to work once they reached eight.

I don't want my kids turning out as jaded as I am.  Though maybe that's a sign you were raised right, nowadays...hopefully...

[el ogrehound 3000]

I have two kids, and I totally think that once they reach high school, it's time to take the blinders off if they haven't already figured shit out themselves.

somebody else's mind is a terrible thing for you to waste

[stewpidphuck]

i'm not saying shelter till they get out of high school.
shit... just keep them a little pure for a while.
8 year olds shouldnt know how to fuck... 10 year olds shouldnt be smoking cigs... and those little 13 year old bettys shouldnt be hanging around in short shorts and tank tops being bitches....

i can see where youre coming from and agree with you about the skanks and cigs but not about the sex part. 8 year olds should know what sex is.

[Thee Gnartical Adventure]

yeah.. i was just thinking about that.
its okay to know about sex at 8. they should know where babys come from already.

but maybe 5 year olds shouldnt know the details

[stewpidphuck]

all in all, i think this book argument is similar to the video game argument when it comes to violence etc. i hate when people say when kids see violence in video games or on tv they are more likey to commit acts of violence. correlation does not imply causation

[Thee Gnartical Adventure]

i think ultimately what i'm trying to say is that 'exposing your child to the world' and 'getting him out of the house so they dont bother you' are totally different things...

[bailgun]

that's a given. infortunately, many american parents don't see the difference, let TB and video games raise their children, and then wonder how a monster was created.

all in all, i think this book argument is similar to the video game argument when it comes to violence etc. i hate when people say when kids see violence in video games or on tv they are more likey to commit acts of violence. correlation does not imply causation

correlation, without communication and explanation can and does imply causation.

[the WORMER]

honestly, most of this country has been raised on sheltered, puritan values, and look how peaceful we're turning out, starting wars and torturing people...

[ze RJM]

its okay to know about sex at 8. they should know where babys come from already.

you have to pee in the girl's mouth to make babies

[elastic back]

its okay to know about sex at 8. they should know where babys come from already.

you have to pee in the girl's mouth to make babies

are you serious?! i promised her that she wouldn't get pregnant that way!!! i feel your pain r. kelly.

[Rick bRo$$]

if you have read that book you would realize how impossible it would be for a middle schooler to kill themselves in that manner

book censorship is the most retarded shit ever

[bailgun]

especially when its over little cartoon bunnies.