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Title: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: lateskate on February 09, 2009, 11:33:49 AM
I live out in the woods on dirt roads and i have to drive about 20 minutes to the good skatepark in the city. i was thinking about building something this summer but im looking for the most cost-effective option. right now its between a wood mini ramp or a concrete ledge. the mini ramp is pretty much straight forward but for the ledge i was thinking of pouring a slab of crete about 6 feet wide and 60 feet long and making a ledge with blocks and cementing on some steel coping. if anyone has done either of these before could u let me know about the costs involved ie price of a bag of concrete, lumber, rebar, etc. any help would be good help


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: elastic back on February 09, 2009, 11:40:17 AM
I live out in the woods on dirt roads and i have to drive about 20 minutes to the good skatepark in the city. i was thinking about building something this summer but im looking for the most cost-effective option. right now its between a wood mini ramp or a concrete ledge. the mini ramp is pretty much straight forward but for the ledge i was thinking of pouring a slab of crete about 6 feet wide and 60 feet long and making a ledge with blocks and cementing on some steel coping. if anyone has done either of these before could u let me know about the costs involved ie price of a bag of concrete, lumber, rebar, etc. any help would be good help

the mini is going to be much cheaper that the slaps of concrete. you might want to consider finding a local company to come pour it for you for a low price. the construction industry is hurting now, so you might be able to get a deal since it won't take them long to do.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: seedless on February 09, 2009, 12:57:10 PM
I live out in the woods on dirt roads and i have to drive about 20 minutes to the good skatepark in the city. i was thinking about building something this summer but im looking for the most cost-effective option. right now its between a wood mini ramp or a concrete ledge. the mini ramp is pretty much straight forward but for the ledge i was thinking of pouring a slab of crete about 6 feet wide and 60 feet long and making a ledge with blocks and cementing on some steel coping. if anyone has done either of these before could u let me know about the costs involved ie price of a bag of concrete, lumber, rebar, etc. any help would be good help
The person that wrote before me has obviously never worked with cement in his life if he thinks a mini is going to be cheaper. You can have someone pour you a slab of concrete for about $500 and then to build your ledge or ledges your looking at about $40 for a 6 foot long ledge. Cement is very inexpensive. A mini on the other hand is gonna cost no less than $1000 if you want one that is legit.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: C H U C K on February 09, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
I live out in the woods on dirt roads and i have to drive about 20 minutes to the good skatepark in the city. i was thinking about building something this summer but im looking for the most cost-effective option. right now its between a wood mini ramp or a concrete ledge. the mini ramp is pretty much straight forward but for the ledge i was thinking of pouring a slab of crete about 6 feet wide and 60 feet long and making a ledge with blocks and cementing on some steel coping. if anyone has done either of these before could u let me know about the costs involved ie price of a bag of concrete, lumber, rebar, etc. any help would be good help
The person that wrote before me has obviously never worked with cement in his life if he thinks a mini is going to be cheaper. You can have someone pour you a slab of concrete for about $500 and then to build your ledge or ledges your looking at about $40 for a 6 foot long ledge. Cement is very inexpensive. A mini on the other hand is gonna cost no less than $1000 if you want one that is legit.


Hey EB, have you ever worked with concrete?  ;)


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/elasticback/cementbarrier010.jpg)


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: seedless on February 09, 2009, 01:06:23 PM
I live out in the woods on dirt roads and i have to drive about 20 minutes to the good skatepark in the city. i was thinking about building something this summer but im looking for the most cost-effective option. right now its between a wood mini ramp or a concrete ledge. the mini ramp is pretty much straight forward but for the ledge i was thinking of pouring a slab of crete about 6 feet wide and 60 feet long and making a ledge with blocks and cementing on some steel coping. if anyone has done either of these before could u let me know about the costs involved ie price of a bag of concrete, lumber, rebar, etc. any help would be good help
The person that wrote before me has obviously never worked with cement in his life if he thinks a mini is going to be cheaper. You can have someone pour you a slab of concrete for about $500 and then to build your ledge or ledges your looking at about $40 for a 6 foot long ledge. Cement is very inexpensive. A mini on the other hand is gonna cost no less than $1000 if you want one that is legit.


Hey EB, have you ever worked with concrete?  ;)


([url]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/elasticback/cementbarrier010.jpg[/url])
i stand corrected, still doesnt change the fact that cement is cheap.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: elastic back on February 09, 2009, 02:19:25 PM
actually, my dad owns a concrete company and i worked pouring concrete every summer growing up for extra cash...so i know a bit. sure, you can make it cheaper, but it is just going to crack up and suck pretty quickly. you need to make sure your foundation is thick enough if you are pouring it in dirt and 60 ft x 6 ft is going to take a lot of concrete. the ledges themselves will be cheap. you can make a decent mini for well under $1k, depending on how big you are going.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: rawbertson on February 10, 2009, 07:36:57 AM
the concrete would be so fuckign sick dude you should just put in 5 grand im sure you could build soemthing really dope for that amount and skate it for a decade... doesnt have to all get put in at once. you can build ledges out of quickrete and dirt and angle iron for real cheap like what Elastic Back was sayin... but they might chip and shit. i have only used quickrete to fix cracks and shit and even then it still chips cause you are always runnin over it. maybe look into getting something granite or marble top where you will be grinding... the entire thing doesnt have to be that material so just a countertop amount would be a lot cheaper than buying an entire ledge. then you can cheap out on the base and spend heavy on the grinding / manny part.

 a skatepark in my province has wooden ledges with marble tops and they have lasted really well and were fairly cheap. i dont know thats just my stupid idea, but let me know how much that costs cause i have always wanted to do soemthing like that.

but i live in a city and there is a huge abandoned industrial area that could just use a little bit of runway touchup and a ton of ledges with rusted out angle iron on them... thinkin about throwin some quickrete on the runway and overtop of the rusted angle iron and make it brand new again


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: colorblindbowen on February 17, 2009, 11:47:58 AM
Yeah, if you are resourceful you get build a mini ramp for pretty cheap.  Look on craigslist for free wood, perhaps call up some local contracting companies and see if they'd be alright with you taking some scrap off of their hands.  Basically, the less you spend on the frame, the more you can spend on the surface.  That's not to say that you should make the frame shitty, it's just that the surface is where you want to put your money.  If it's gonna be outside, and you want to get any sort of long term use out of a mini, DON'T use masonite.  That shit sucks!  If you can do it, get ramp armor.  Hahaha, that shit is like $150 a sheet.  The last time I priced it in VT 4'X10' sheet steel was $55.  Then it depends on what tools you have to work with metal.

I've always wanted to try and make the frame of an indoor micro out of corrugated cardboard.  That would be awesome.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 17, 2009, 08:32:12 PM
I just took a whole bunch of wood from next door where their building a house (it was in what I would think is a scrap pile). I've now got three palletes, 4 5'X5' pieces of particle board (which will be flexible but probably will break), and more than enough 2"X6"s. I'm going to build really nice 3.5 foot high quarter pipe but make it long enough to get some grinds done instead of just stalls. Than the three palletes are on their way to become a gnarly ass box.

Does anyone have any good free sites for prints bookmarked? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: ze RJM on February 17, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
when you are planning it out, double or even triple up the particle board, because that  shit
is weak on it's own, I'd even triple it if you could, but take that into consideration when you
are plotting the top bar and if you put smooth masonite over the top


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 17, 2009, 08:51:18 PM
Yeah I figure masonite and metal stock is the only thing I'm going to have to buy for this project. But in all honesty, I don't want masonite, I hate how slick it is even if you do keep good care of it. I might just keep the particle board as long as it doesn't start chipping.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: colorblindbowen on February 17, 2009, 11:54:42 PM
It will.  I made a mini park in the gallery at school this time last year and used that shit for one of the 1/4s.  There was a whole in it after the first hour long session.  If you do anything, add more ribs to your frame.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 19, 2009, 03:09:28 PM
Just finished the box today. No coping though.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2rpxvtv.jpg)
Next up, quarter pipe, with all of this wood.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/24lvubq.jpg)


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: ze RJM on February 20, 2009, 01:02:48 PM
what are you using as a template?  The last one I made we used a bag-chair frame
that worked pretty good.  You can see it leaned up against the garage.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h147/rjm63/workin1.jpg)


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: Paper/Scissors on February 21, 2009, 07:31:55 AM
I was thinking about standing up another pallette or two and using that as the vertical base and then just building around it. But I still have to go buy some stronger plywood to get started and money is due for just about everything right now. So give it another week or two.

Oh and I snapped my basement deck.


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: rawbertson on February 23, 2009, 07:59:15 AM
I built a gnarly box, 3 feet wide, 8 feet long, for under 40$ a couple years ago. I stole two plastic benches from my local gas station, they put them in between each pump to display product. they were too short to skate on their own,  so i put them together and made 1 nice box out of two small ones. i bought a nice sheet of plywood for 20$, some flat head countersunk screws, and i went to a place called the metal supermarket where the guy cut down 10' piece of angle iron down to the perfect size for us.  it was only 15$. The screws were less than 3$. I still had lots of wood leftover and the box still works great to this day, the only problem is the angle iron chews giant gashes in your nose/tail if you do noseslides/tailslides, and the angle iron can put kind of harsh chunks in your trucks as well. also the wood where your wheels dig in is starting to get a big chewed. i think next time id be better off getting larger angle iron but then you give up fastening structural integrity, and these boxes were not completely flat on the sides so that was a major issue.

but stealing the guts to the box can save you a lot of money and can end up being a lot stronger than using striaght up wood frame that shit gets rickety after 180 pound men are jumpin around on it all day


Title: Re: Backyard Setup ($$$)
Post by: elastic back on February 23, 2009, 08:29:46 PM
photo?